07-11-2018, 07:37 AM
Nothing much? Turn 4 some people think PIT maneuver is legal racing maneuver as always whether accidentally by being too aggressive or purposefully. For what a tight small track it is the start looks fairly clean until turn 4, you will never get a collision free first lap for the whole field, not when some people lag 100ms some 200ms even. I had 180-200ms behind me all race, for most part of race when I brake car behind me lags and nearly rear ends me as a result, sometimes I have to leave more space behind me or on inside just in case, it's not because he's doing it on purpose but because his lag is so damn high from North America to EU to be able to do any closer racing. Now when you have such people scattered through the whole field it can be a total chaos, they may brake just fine just right close enough but because of lag they still bump you, or side by side they warp and bump you or it can also shoot the cars apart at light speed in some sims. Sucks but it's what it is when SRS allows high latency.
I didn't see RC having much problem climbing through the field in race.
Is it any different up top? Not really. I was driving with one eye on rear view mirror almost, always checking how is the car behind me braking, do I need to stop braking sooner to avoid being bumped, do I need to go wide to give him more space, should I dive inside so he can fly out outside, what corner exit does he have on me, what is the car behind him doing. Are there any crashes on track to avoid in front, any blue flagged cars, is there anyone trying to exit pits, ...
At the faster pace we were doing there really is not much room for error and safety space to use, with slower pace you have plenty maneuverability (extra left over unused grip, braking distances, etc.) to bob and weave.
We had very similar issue up top in turn 4, I don't accelerate really and then brake for the 1m between turn 3 and turn 4 with AE86, but car behind me does, being first lap, he doesn't know this and quickly closes the small gap, so what do I do to not get easily crashed into in turn 4? I brake a little less, go a little wider and faster to give him more space in case he was a bit on side of my rear bumper. Mirrors, it's all about mirrors and watching what the car behind you is doing when they are close. Sure you can't save yourself from every dive or error of car behind you but the small ones you often can.
Eero had pretty much impossible overtake in front of him whole race as it is very very difficult to overtake cars that lag over 100ms on any tight track. With similar paces between cars where you are after first few corners as a line forms is where you are likely to stay until end of race when no errors happen in front. It's just one of those tracks.
One may think these "small" things such as using mirrors, latencies of people connected, weather+time of day, ..., do not matter, but they do, it all adds up in the end.
Sure I too expected SRS to be a little better than public less organized servers, but SRS is still public and truth be told there are some public servers that have decent organization, latency protection, admin present, ratings, best laps and such, even a forum etc. but do not require anyone to sign up or register, you want to race you race, you crash and wreck you either get banned or run out of rating and get auto kicked. Is it a mess in first lap, sure, is it a mess in leagues in first lap? Oh yeah. It can be a mess any time in leagues even to such extent such as 15 safety cars in the last hour of a multi hour race, because every time the safety car goes out the whole pack is starting again and close together instead of driving around with bigger gaps. Is it a mess on SRS, usually it is same as elsewhere, often it's PIT maneuvers what I see on SRS over and over again, people diving into rear bumper corner of car in front of them.
I didn't see RC having much problem climbing through the field in race.
Is it any different up top? Not really. I was driving with one eye on rear view mirror almost, always checking how is the car behind me braking, do I need to stop braking sooner to avoid being bumped, do I need to go wide to give him more space, should I dive inside so he can fly out outside, what corner exit does he have on me, what is the car behind him doing. Are there any crashes on track to avoid in front, any blue flagged cars, is there anyone trying to exit pits, ...
At the faster pace we were doing there really is not much room for error and safety space to use, with slower pace you have plenty maneuverability (extra left over unused grip, braking distances, etc.) to bob and weave.
We had very similar issue up top in turn 4, I don't accelerate really and then brake for the 1m between turn 3 and turn 4 with AE86, but car behind me does, being first lap, he doesn't know this and quickly closes the small gap, so what do I do to not get easily crashed into in turn 4? I brake a little less, go a little wider and faster to give him more space in case he was a bit on side of my rear bumper. Mirrors, it's all about mirrors and watching what the car behind you is doing when they are close. Sure you can't save yourself from every dive or error of car behind you but the small ones you often can.
Eero had pretty much impossible overtake in front of him whole race as it is very very difficult to overtake cars that lag over 100ms on any tight track. With similar paces between cars where you are after first few corners as a line forms is where you are likely to stay until end of race when no errors happen in front. It's just one of those tracks.
One may think these "small" things such as using mirrors, latencies of people connected, weather+time of day, ..., do not matter, but they do, it all adds up in the end.
Sure I too expected SRS to be a little better than public less organized servers, but SRS is still public and truth be told there are some public servers that have decent organization, latency protection, admin present, ratings, best laps and such, even a forum etc. but do not require anyone to sign up or register, you want to race you race, you crash and wreck you either get banned or run out of rating and get auto kicked. Is it a mess in first lap, sure, is it a mess in leagues in first lap? Oh yeah. It can be a mess any time in leagues even to such extent such as 15 safety cars in the last hour of a multi hour race, because every time the safety car goes out the whole pack is starting again and close together instead of driving around with bigger gaps. Is it a mess on SRS, usually it is same as elsewhere, often it's PIT maneuvers what I see on SRS over and over again, people diving into rear bumper corner of car in front of them.