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Points Calculation
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(05-22-2018, 10:27 AM)Almor R Sousa Wrote:  I suggested some time ago a system based on strength of field. Here it is.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e...vP/pubhtml
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e...utput=xlsx
The idea was the higher the sof of the race the higher the scores. And it would be universal you wouldn't have to have different scoring systems. Its based on the difficulty of the race so it doesn't matter if you have 1, 4 or 10 servers.

But there doesn't seem to be any interest in changing. Also the points are a bit of a dick measuring contest anyway.

Yes, that's a good system that resolves the problem of running races at low-participation times purely to game the points.
It can  be a dick-measuring contest, sure. It's also an incentive to keep racing or to race on the tracks you're not particularly keen on. We're all here because we want something with more structure than random public servers, so don't sell short one of the most important aspects of it.

(05-22-2018, 04:12 PM)Tanguy Queguineur Wrote:  The current system also has no incentive to complete a race when you're at the back of the pack as you can only lose points (incidents penalties) by continuing. I remember a 1 hour race in the Porsche 911 GT1, we were only 6, 2 DNF at the beginning, I was 4th and didn't have the pace of the top 3 so there was no point for me to race...

I think this one is hard to address. iRacing manages it somewhat by allowing you to build Safety Rating by turning clean laps even if in a competitive sense they're pointless, but I'm not sure how that could be achieved without a complete overhaul of the way incidents are dealt with.
That's not to say I like the way incidents are dealt with. Currently they cause a situation where close racing = less points. You'll often be better off in points if you concede five positions and finish the race with nobody around you than if you fight hard but remain ahead and take some bumps.
I'm finding that SRS is giving me the best racing experience I've had in terms of racing closely with other players. It's always fun and some jostling isn't taking away from that, nobody is wrecking people to get ahead. My points are taking an absolute tanking from getting involved in the scrapping and although I'm having far more fun this way, it seems a little perverse to know that I'd be rewarded more for not chasing the car in front and conceding to every car behind me.

(05-24-2018, 05:29 PM)Will Dawson Wrote:  
(05-24-2018, 12:48 PM)Juan Alvarez Wrote:  Totally agree that the system needs a change for a fair competition.

I'm far from being at the top of the leaderboard but i see people in the TCR series in the top ten that mostly participates in the 06:00 GMT races where not even the first server is full. The winner still gets 102 points!!

That seems a little unfair.

It would also be a little unfair to not reward the winner or anyone else in that situation full points as it's not their fault that less people participated. If you start reducing the available points when there are less drivers in a server then that is yet more incentive taken away for people to race.

That's why a SOF system would be an improvement, you're rewarded according to the quality of the drivers you compete against, how many there are makes no difference. Currently the less drivers there are the more points you get. You'll get more points for running (invented values) 1:30:00 laps where the optimum is 1:00:00 at the back on a one server race of ten drivers than you would running 1:01:00 at first place in server two.
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Messages In This Thread
Points Calculation - by Ross Dowson - 05-22-2018, 07:22 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by James Blint - 05-22-2018, 09:02 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Almor R Sousa - 05-22-2018, 10:27 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Tanguy Queguineur - 05-22-2018, 04:12 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Juan Alvarez - 05-24-2018, 12:48 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Will Dawson - 05-24-2018, 05:29 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Ross Dowson - 05-24-2018, 10:50 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Juan Alvarez - 05-25-2018, 07:23 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-25-2018, 09:06 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Michael Martin - 05-24-2018, 06:42 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-25-2018, 04:17 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by James Blint - 05-25-2018, 07:55 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Ross Dowson - 05-25-2018, 07:37 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-25-2018, 08:00 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Ross Dowson - 05-26-2018, 08:17 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-26-2018, 09:11 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Dawid Melnarowicz - 05-25-2018, 09:40 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Will Dawson - 05-25-2018, 06:37 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Almor R Sousa - 05-26-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-26-2018, 04:16 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Almor R Sousa - 05-26-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-27-2018, 02:47 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Almor R Sousa - 05-28-2018, 01:21 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-28-2018, 04:55 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Almor R Sousa - 05-29-2018, 10:55 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by László Nagy - 05-29-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: Points Calculation - by Russell Sobie - 05-28-2018, 04:12 AM
RE: Points Calculation - by Will Dawson - 05-28-2018, 07:18 AM

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