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Poll: Which would be best for SRS open wheel?
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Driver inc. rate limit
25.61%
21 25.61%
Driver rating limit
24.39%
20 24.39%
Enforce yellow flags
15.85%
13 15.85%
Pre-qualification races / series
34.15%
28 34.15%
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Open wheel racing in SRS
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(09-20-2020, 06:36 PM)Tim Cullingworth Wrote:  Interesting ideas.

I do think your poll needs a none of the above option for it to be of any use.
Thanks Tim, hoping to stimulate some discussion on this, so please offer alternatives. I'll see if I can put in a "none of the above" option.
Then maybe we can put the consensus ideas to some of the series sponsors for possible implementation.

(09-20-2020, 08:14 PM)Simon Meisinger Wrote:  Low powered modern open wheelers will always stay a shitshow in sim racing. They're also among the worst series at iRacing.

Comparably easy to drive cars that make you feel like Schumacher simply attract the worst kind of sim racers.

But the pre-qualification is still a great idea, regardless of which series it would be used for. I had a similar idea as well: https://www.simracingsystem.com/showthre...7#pid38547
Thanks Simon, yes, pre-quali is used in a number of leagues. Would be good to get it onto some SRS series.

(09-20-2020, 05:59 PM)Riley Gallardo Wrote:  
(09-20-2020, 02:35 PM)Tim Masson Wrote:  I gave up on SRS open wheel racing a while back... I enjoy it, but I'm not the fastest, so always seem to end up behind some lap 1 melee... Anyway, we need some sort of criteria to make it work in SRS. I think we need one or more of the following methods (not all possible in AC/SRS) to make open wheel racing "work" nicely:
  1. Driver inc. rate limit
  2. Driver rating limit 
  3. Enforce yellow flags
  4. Pre-qualification races / series (ie completion and score criteria // eg before competing in a F1 race you must have completed 1 F3 series) 
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Hi Tim, I saw Martin posted this in the discord, I think that open wheel can be chaotic and clean.  First I want to start by saying that an incident rating restriction in my opinion is not a good solution. High incidents in previous series should not affect your ability on future series.  I have a friend who did the Tatuus on Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve (Canada GP) and that was a disaster even though previous tracks were not. This led to him having an 8+ incident average if I remember correctly. He has since brought it down to below 4 and is one of the cleanest drivers for his rating.  Just remember your incidents average doesn’t change very much after you have a lot of starts, and being involved in a T1 crash and going to the back and racing with not as clean drivers, that has gotten my average up to 2.5 and I can’t lower it but I like to think I am a very clean racer.  My conclusion is that I don't think that Incident Average restrictons should exist, at least for the daily series.  I think that having a restriction would decrease split sizes and I don't think it's the solution.  I really hope this does not go through because I would like to continue to race with my friends who have ~3-5 incident averages as they are both clean drivers, just have been involved in a lot of turn 1 incidents and crash's where the blame falls on the other driver.
Thanks Riley. Yup, I was the same, had a few horrendous races very early on in SRS, before I understood what type of races to avoid and how to deal with the crash and smash crowd. I agree that inc. rating (as it's recorded now) limits wouldn't apply to daily or even weekly series. I hope this idea will also stimulate some more discussion on inc. ratings to make them useful in SRS.
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Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-20-2020, 02:35 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Riley Gallardo - 09-20-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-20-2020, 08:16 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simon Meisinger - 09-20-2020, 08:14 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Akhil Rao - 09-20-2020, 08:32 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-20-2020, 09:10 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Martin Smith - 09-21-2020, 03:39 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-21-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simone Saviolo - 09-28-2020, 02:53 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simon Meisinger - 09-21-2020, 11:33 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Sergio Mendez - 09-21-2020, 08:08 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-22-2020, 08:29 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Martin Smith - 09-23-2020, 05:47 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Tim Masson - 09-23-2020, 07:29 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simon Meisinger - 09-23-2020, 07:15 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Michal Ringes - 09-23-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Martin Smith - 09-23-2020, 11:33 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Stephane Homke - 10-08-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Michal Ringes - 10-08-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simone Saviolo - 10-09-2020, 07:07 AM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Michal Ringes - 10-09-2020, 01:05 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simone Saviolo - 10-11-2020, 02:47 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Michal Ringes - 10-11-2020, 07:33 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Simone Saviolo - 10-11-2020, 08:00 PM
RE: Open wheel racing in SRS - by Troy Beachem - 10-12-2020, 05:34 PM

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