[Riley Gallardo]

Hello,
I am posting this to get a clarification on rules on SRS concerning track limits.  I was under the impression that two wheels must remain on the track at all times.  I believe if you are accidentally going off of the track and not gaining time by doing so it is not considered, but if you are gaining time (in this case) by going off of the track intentionally I would like to know if I can protest.  This was on an RSS F3 race where I was following the driver doing this and it became very infuriating because by going off he had very high exit speed out of the corner.  Every lap that I was behind him I saw him do this.  I would just like some clarification on track limits for SRS. https://imgur.com/gallery/5vpWDjX
Thank you,
Riley Gallardo

[Pawel Kusmierek]

This has been discussed before:
https://www.simracingsystem.com/showthread.php?tid=7425
https://www.simracingsystem.com/showthread.php?tid=8860

[Riley Gallardo]

This has been discussed before:
https://www.simracingsystem.com/showthread.php?tid=7425
https://www.simracingsystem.com/showthread.php?tid=8860

Thank you, I will be protesting then.

[Scott Warner]

none of those threads are conclusive....what IS the limit here? 2 tires on the rumble strip? 2 tires on the white line? I have never been one to take liberties but it would be good to have a clear ruling on this topic from Henrique as we have seen people get banned for things like this on their first offence. If we all know the rules we can teach the new guys and prevent people from getting banned and racing like jerks...this is a community we need to be here to help the new people and encourage each other to make these races as clean, fair and fun as possible. @simracingsystem

[Kristian Novev]

Riley, if you really want to protest against me for this, go for it. I'd rather not be suspended for something that isn't clearly defined. I simply race within what is allowed by the penalty system. If it makes you feel any better, and the general consensus around doing this is negative, I'll stick to the kerbs.

[Pawel Kusmierek]

 would be good to have a clear ruling on this topic from Henrique 

well good luck :-)

[Akhil Rao]

Riley, if you really want to protest against me for this, go for it. I'd rather not be suspended for something that isn't clearly defined. I simply race within what is allowed by the penalty system. If it makes you feel any better, and the general consensus around doing this is negative, I'll stick to the kerbs.

Kristian,

This is something that has been pointed out to me too when I went wide on tracks like Barcelona moto (runoff on the lat corner). I thought since there was no penalty it was fine, but that is not the case for SRS. Kunos track limits aren't always correct, so if you go wide once in a while it's not an issue but that's different from consistently taking a line that is off track but isn't flagged as track limits. TBF if your inside wheels are past the rumble that's pretty clearly off track.

Ideally the mods would give definitive guidance on this, but in general if your wheels are not even touching the kerbs you're off track. That being said, people have been banned for this so I would tread with caution. It's not wrong to want to use all of the track, but it's better to think of this as a game bug that shouldn't be exploited in SRS.

[Scott Warner]

It seems harsh to enforce a rule with so much grey area with a ban...If we could get a clear definition of track limits it would be hugely helpful in preventing frustration on many fronts. So what is it? I have always believed the rumble strip is the track limit. So as long as there are 2 tires on the rumble strip you are good...this should not really be a divisive / controversial issue...its straight forward. Just clearly define the rule, communicate it and people who want to race fair (aka 99% of us) will adhere to it. It will prevent pissing matches / drama in the future for sure if the rule is clearly defined and communicated.

[James Blint]

General rule is to keep at least 2 tires on the track, the grey stuff. The green astro is already meant to slow you down so 4 wheels beyond that is clearly off limits.

[Russell Sobie]

The rules are apparently purposefully vague so as to allow administrators/stewards the ability to rule in any way they see fit based on protests alone. I'm not a huge fan, but that's how it has been since I've been on here, and for the most part it hasn't been a huge issue.

I race how I think I should be racing and anyone that wants to drive in the track's parking lot in an attempt to get a faster apex, they can go for it. I'm fairly sure that the fastest laps recorded on SRS for RBR are from guys who keep 2 wheels in at all times.

However, the second someone takes me out because of them going that far off track and then expecting me to not take up the same space at the apex because I took a tighter line.... well, that person gets a protest filed against them.