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Too much contact on races
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(11-22-2017, 07:31 PM)Jan Dziock Wrote:  
(11-22-2017, 04:06 PM)Jukka Drugg Wrote:  Also to be noted... usually guy in front can´t take out the guy in behind but I quess admins can confirm that most protest are because some one take out the guy in front. If this system takes most of those away there will be more time to look at those few insidents that are caused by the guy in front (turning to guy who tries to pass, changing lines on braking area etc)


So what if the guy in front braked 50 metres too early, and the guy behind had no chance at all to avoid the accident? See where this is leading? Again, in an automated system like this, there's absolutely no way to determine whose fault it was. I'll go with what the people running this league always suggest - if you feel like another driver broke the rules, and collected you doing so, file a protest. That's the best way to sort out the notorious foul players. The system as it is is not the problem. It's more or less the same as in iRacing, and the system there really works, even though there still will be complaints of course, there always will be.

By the way, if you only have an average of 0.2 incidents, and it's gone up to 1.0 now, then i don't feel that's a reason to complain. 1 incident per race is extremely healthy.

You mean someone would start to make that on purpose? If that is the case there is always protest form to correct that wrong penalty given. I am just trying to figure out way to get rid of the biggest problem which is guys that go too fast on braking zone and use another guy as their brake. Current system does not seem to punish that enough and thats reason why we have that much problems with that (and it does not matter how much faster you are if other guy just does not brake and collect you). Also, filling protest does not give you back the points and ratings you just missed because of that crash that was not your fault. And also it does not take away points that other guy with no brake pedal gained by getting rid of you. btw. Nice, clean, hard racing with you on practice yesterday with Tatuus Smile

Luca, I agree. I have nothing against tough racing wheel to wheel as long as some room is given to other guy too. I just had my first touches that were my fault but they didn´t get guy off track or loose position for it (actually I think I gave him more speed out of corner Smile

This was just an idea, and if nobody else thinks it´s good one then it can be forgotten. Hopefully we get some comments on the case (hopefully from admin too). Most important reason of collision is always between ears or between wheel and seat. My opinion is that everyone should aim for 0 incidents and every incident should be small and accident. Drivers should always be prepared when there is cars ahead... usually that means you need to brake little earlier than normally because someone on that group will have earlier braking point or some trouble with braking or cornering. I think 1,0 average is good for pub racing but I would expect more from real sim racers.

If this idea was bad, here is another. What if one penalty given by protest form would be reducing more points from the guilty one of the incident and give back points that were reduced to innocent part. I think it would make more happening between the ears department before ramming in to the corner because you know that by doing it wrong will not get you points but instead reduce them. How does this sound?
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Too much contact on races - by Afonso Quelhas - 10-24-2017, 07:06 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Fran Tenreiro - 10-24-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Afonso Quelhas - 10-25-2017, 03:46 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Juan Reinoso - 10-27-2017, 12:22 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Stan Donit - 11-01-2017, 03:16 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Joe Blow - 11-01-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Stan Donit - 11-01-2017, 06:33 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-01-2017, 10:12 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jukka Drugg - 11-22-2017, 03:17 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jan Dziock - 11-22-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jukka Drugg - 11-22-2017, 04:06 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jan Dziock - 11-22-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jukka Drugg - 11-23-2017, 04:15 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-22-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Luca Antinori - 11-23-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-23-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by David Iglesias - 11-23-2017, 07:05 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Juan Reinoso - 11-23-2017, 08:20 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jan Dziock - 11-23-2017, 08:51 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Marek Vons - 11-23-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-23-2017, 10:03 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jay Gabriel - 11-23-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by David Delgado - 11-23-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Juan Reinoso - 11-24-2017, 01:44 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-24-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Juan Reinoso - 11-24-2017, 03:24 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Renso Tejada - 12-13-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Jan Dziock - 11-25-2017, 12:36 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 11-25-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Andy Rohrer - 12-05-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 12-05-2017, 02:24 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by João Dias - 12-05-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 12-05-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by David Delgado - 12-12-2017, 07:53 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Marek Vons - 12-12-2017, 09:59 AM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Russell Sobie - 12-12-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Marek Vons - 12-12-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: Too much contact on races - by Marek Vons - 12-13-2017, 09:39 AM

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