[Jaroslav Černý]

http://www.simracingsystem.com/showthrea...644&page=1

Good discussion with SRS going on here.

Was going ... closed

The system is working as intended, there is no abuse.

As intended with no abuse? I beg to differ. Sure it's not a right in your eyes clean abuse kind of stuff but in a week any new player can figure out how to "play" the system be it incident wise or point awarding wise.

Then they should negotiate, instead of closing topics ...

About giving up positions in T1, what do you suggest, be always the last ?
Because sometimes I brake becouse I see an Accident, and someone hits my from behind ... too often in some series

Nothing helps with it, not even in real life racing, people are nuts, don't drive safe no matter what, what they do in real is deploy a safety car with track wide yellow flag, or they red flag it and start again with penalizing any offenders to start last etc. KMR server app does this automatically, when there are too many collisions in lap 1 it automatically restarts until people freakin' learn to make a clean enough lap 1.

Mid pack it is difficult to go contact free, if you go fast and overtake people don't use mirrors and don't even see you overtaking them often, pushing you out in corners if you even have any space to overtake to begin with. On top of that if an inexperienced driver is trying to follow you and brakes when your brake lights turn on, they will fly out or even take you out from behind as your braking was spot on with no safety zone left to exploit.

If you go a little slower and safer you get plowed from behind.
And if you manage to survive you crash into a pile of cars that formed usually from top 4-8 crashing. And even if you see them and manage to slow down enough to avoid the wrecks/spinning cars on track, someone else will plow you from back.

Doesn't matter if it's public, organized, league or real racing, it's all the same bloody mess, the more lenient the rules the bigger mess it is especially for sprint races.

On public where the difference between slow and fast is big, probably same on SRS, you can start from pits or do not do Q, then try and overtake it all, even then you gotta go through a lot of wrecks, people defending too aggressively causing contacts, ...

The only thing that works is qualify top 3 and get the hell away from the pack, hoping not to get wrecked in first 5 corners. Hell sometimes they wreck even before T1 on a straight, pushing and sandwiching, completely unaware of cars beside them and what line they ought to drive for side by side racing.

And it's not as if top 3 go easy on each other, when latencies for both cars are sub 50ms and stable it can be a bumper to bumper racing at times. But clean drivers try not to bump the car they want to overtake and if they do and it's their undeniable fault, they yield the position or slow down and not finish the overtake after accidentally bumping someone too much.

I just added 5 incs = 1 day and instand disqualification ... I think doesn't add too much complexity

BTW, in 1h races I have less complains, incidents are really incidents, and not wreckers ... last week I made 1h race at Nurburgring Endurance-Cup, and 4 indidents, all my fault, but avoiding contact with other drivers

Adding the penalties and altering rules is not a hard thing to do if the system already has all the collision/incident detection etc. which it must have right now. It's simply balancing out penalties to promote more clean racing. There are a few ways to do this and subtracting championship points is not one that bothers most people who drive poorly.

It doesn't take a genius to add a limit of 1 incident per 2-5 seconds gain at maximum so that when you get wrecked from behind and then plow through the field it doesn't suddenly give you 10 incidents but only 1-2. These counting, who hit who first and delays/time for counting are not so hard to do in code.

Hopefully they have read the suggestions and will take them into consideration for when they are updating the incident/penalties and point awarding systems.