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Group C Question
#1
Are the Group C cars supposed to be Sequential Gearboxes (bump shifter) or H-pattern cars. I ask because the in car animations on the 962 Short Tail show the driver "bump-shifting" but I thought it was supposed to be an H-pattern car.

I think it would be awesome to have the 1Hr races be Group C eventually. Longer tracks, races, and Group C cars with MANDATORY H-pattern would be neat (if that's what the car is supposed to have).
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#2
(12-07-2017, 04:21 PM)Stan Donit Wrote:  Are the Group C cars supposed to be Sequential Gearboxes (bump shifter) or H-pattern cars. I ask because the in car animations on the 962 Short Tail show the driver "bump-shifting" but I thought it was supposed to be an H-pattern car.

I think it would be awesome to have the 1Hr races be Group C eventually. Longer tracks, races, and Group C cars with MANDATORY H-pattern would be neat (if that's what the car is supposed to have).

I thought the group C cars were H-pattern syncromesh transmissions. He's using the clutch to shift, so it's probably not a dog box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnyLL4EFew
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#3
Hey Stan per Andys video its H pattern.

Assetto Corsa doesnt have Full shift animations. Every shift sequential or H pattern always looks like a bump. I think the only game that has had full shift animation is the new GTurismo which I give them props for doing and pushing the limits forward but I will never be playing lol.

Also Stan I would love to have a series like you mentioned. Thats HardCore and makes things like shifter mandatory. I talk about this all the time in iRacing.
And maybe one day in the future VR also Tongue But for sure shifter lol.
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#4
You just have to lift to upshift (no need for clutch)but need to use the clutch to down change, I think this is the same on the real car. I'd like to see a champ with mandatory h pattern and use of the clutch with no throttle blipping allowed but dunno how populated it would be and maybe a bit unfair for people without shifters 3 peddles etc. I like to challenge myself by driving all the cars how they are or were supposed to be driven. In a 20 minute race you can brake the gearbox with too many botched gear changes, even not blipping the throttle enough on downchanges can damage the gearbox on some cars, I think the lamborghini muira has the most fragile gearbox, 2 crappy gearchanges means you're out of the race.

Anyone who hasn't got a shifter should really think about getting one, makes the game so much better, I think I'd get bored of changing with the paddles all the time. The only car I don't like are the 90's dtm cars, all you seem to do is change gear, short ratios and six gears means far too much shifting.
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#5
I agree... I like to challenge myself to drive the cars correctly as they are in real life.
I know not everyone has the funds or desire even for a true H-pattern shifter, but it DOES make it better, for me anyway.
Thanks for the info on the Group C car, and I look forward to future races in SRS with these cars.
Also... I wish SRS would try some 90min races, or even 2Hr races. I LIKE THE LONGER STUFF... 20mins is too short for me.
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#6
I think the only way I'd dig mandatory H shifter + clutch is if I was like 3 seconds or less off the pace of the fastest folks in a race using autoclutch and paddle shifters. Since that isn't happening likely in this lifetime, I'll be happy to sit out of any races of this sort. Knock yourselves out! Smile
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#7
Assetto assigns the gearbox the gearbox type for me based on the car, so if it's an H-pattern car it doesn't let me use paddles to shift. I know that's a setting I can change, but after twenty years of heel and toe shifting, I'm pretty comfortable with it. If we were racing for money I'd use paddles and every driver aid I could get, though. I wonder how high participation would be in a mandatory h-shifter series; I would think it might be hard to learn proper shifting on a sim, since you can't feel the gears mesh or the clutch engage and most people in America drive cars with automatic transmissions and a lot of sim racers might not even be old enough to drive a real car.
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#8
(12-16-2017, 10:16 PM)Andy Rohrer Wrote:  I know that's a setting I can change, but after twenty years of heel and toe shifting, I'm pretty comfortable with it.
After fifty years of H&T'ing old Brit cars around, I'd have to agree.
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