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Can we talk about the carelessness in the Lotus Evora GX
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(04-26-2019, 09:11 AM)Dennis Ipenburg Wrote:  Exactly this. Say that someone did divebomb you in a corner. You feel he's in the wrong and want to report him. You've already got a triggerhappy finger when it comes to reporting, so you have the form finished in seconds. 

Dude that crashed into you didn't deliberately run into you. He simply made a mistake. Yet, 5 weeks after you filed the report you get the SRS message that he got suspended for 2 weeks because you reported him. 

No one has a "trigger happy finger when it comes to reporting." It's kind of a pain in the ass. Even folks that streamline their reporting process and merely throw a clip from twitch have to go through SOME ordeal to report folks. My personal workflow is quite a bit more involved... I have to transfer the replay from one PC to another, record it from whatever POV in OBS, throw the clip or clips into Divinci Resolve, add subtitle texts so the viewer knows what they are looking at, render it, upload it to my youtube channel. Then copy the video URL into the form AND type out a blurb about what the offense is. The filling out the form is the easiest part of the process.

You can be sure that I'm not going to do all that stuff when I think someone "simply made a mistake". I do it when I think someone is being inconsiderate and/or wreckless and the replay I watch makes it clear that this individual actually thinks what they just did was A-OK (they just drive off without giving the place back, etc.). If they aren't in a position to give the place back, such as when they do something boneheaded and end up taking themselves out worse than whoever they hit, and I can't tell if they knew they screwed up, I actually send them a PM about the incident.

"Hey, in lap 3 when you tried to duck in on me there... that's a bit aggressive, don't you think? There was no way you were going to make that turn."

Then guess what? They get a day or so to write me back. The guys that write back with a mea culpa get a pass. Those that don't write back? Or worse, just start arguing over who's fault it was when I think it was them? I start making a video about them.

Quote:With regards to the incident: you were right, he was wrong. But do you REALLY believe that players deserve to be suspended just because he made a judgement error?

If all of the above goes through my personal filter AND administration here thinks it's punishable? Yes, I do think they deserve it.

Quote:I have been suspended here once too. Without so much as a warning. I briefly got distracted, missed a brakingpoint on the main straight and took the driver in front of me out. Shit happens, but it was an honest mistake. Couple of weeks later, a notification that I was suspended for 7 days. Not a warning first, never "crossed a line" like that before. Nono, immediate suspension. And the penalty was as high as the one guy I reported. Someone who -out of revenge- waited a lap to deliberately drive into me. 

Did you give the spot back to the guy you took out right then and there, without just continuing racing? Did you say "sorry" in chat? Did you send a PM to them right after the race apologizing for ruining their experience? If so, good on you. It's still their prerogative to write you up or not though... but if it were me, I'd have probably shrugged and went about my day to day without reporting.

I think warnings are only given for really minor things, like goofing up and trying to re-enter the track in a dangerous way causing others to have to go around you, maybe off track. No actual incidents caused, but risky behavior. I've had a couple of those when I first started here.

I'm pretty sure if you do something that causes another driver to suffer an incident, be it on purpose or an accident, it's 1 week minimum suspension for first offense. Then it gets bigger and bigger as more infractions are reported about you. Straight up revenge wrecking typically gets an insta-ban from the reports I've been involved with... so I don't know how that guy only got 1 week. I guess if we can make mistakes, so can administration. Smile

Quote:That is imho what is going wrong on this website. Ppl feel they are being wronged report way too quickly, without thinking of the intend (most people REALLY do not want to run their car into yours, they simply screwed up) and admin(s) hand out suspensions like cookies in a candystore. It makes racing here a lot less enjoyable.

If you've only been dinged the once, then I really don't see how more people reporting more offenses is adversely affecting your personal driving experience. If you want to race in an environment where everyone is way more lenient towards "accidental dive bombs" or whatever... there's always public servers.
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RE: Can we talk about the carelessness in the Lotus Evora GX - by Russell Sobie - 04-26-2019, 05:12 PM

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