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RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Alex Leif - 07-10-2018
(07-10-2018, 09:17 AM)James Blint Wrote: Sprint :
- 812 SF, Aventador SV, Diablo GT/Jota, 512 TR, Mustang '15, F50 (that wonderful recent mod)
- Levante, Cayenne or Macan
- Miura
Endurance : LMP1 (maybe with minimum rating)
Fine with fixed setup, but please not the tyre pressures, in some series it's like you are running with a puncture on one side, while cooking the other
Absolutely agree regarding tyre pressures, PLEASE consider not fixing PSI for future fixed setup races.
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Pasha Paterson - 07-10-2018
In the "older and/or slower" camp, it might be interesting to try to find some cars to make up something akin to the IMSA "Street Tuner" class:
- Mazda MX-5
- MINI Cooper
- Porsche Cayman
- Abarth 500 (none in real life but might fit the category?)
- BMW… M2 maybe?
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Michael Martin - 07-10-2018
^^^^ ✓
Really like the idea of multi car racing. The challenge is getting the bop right. I don't even know if it can be implemented on SRS.
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Pasha Paterson - 07-11-2018
I would be willing to set up a server with those five cars just to test the idea, but don't know if my PC would survive hosting it.
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Pasha Paterson - 07-11-2018
Well thanks to everyone for the first round of testing on the experimental AC server:
- Porsche 718S 1:41.286 (Zackaphina)
- Abarth 500 AC 1:41.939 (KORXX)
- Mazda MX-5 Cup 1:44.167 (edsonorm)
- BMW 1M 1:44.245 (Rafael Mendes)
- Toyota GT86 1:51.265 (DonutThing)
- Audi S1 1:52.078 (me)
- Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV 1:54.794 (me)
I'm guessing the Audi would be contending a bit better but maybe the Alfa would be dropped off. I'm guessing with a bit of creative BoP ballast, someone who knew what they were doing would be able to put this together. I just don't pretend to know what I'm doing.I'll set this up again tomorrow and see what happens.
Thanks again to everyone who joined. It was fun!
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Jaroslav Černý - 07-12-2018
MX5 cup is not suitable to be driven with almost any other car in AC because it has those insanely grippy slicks. All that car does is go flat out, dive every corner at max speed you can. With a little more power it does sub 7min Nord. Tourist. The tyres have a little crazy grip. Plus as a stock car it's pretty damn boring to drive, low power, infinite grip slicks. It will be a carnage when some cars have way too different cornering speeds and straight line speeds.
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Andrea Martelli - 07-12-2018
I love Praga R1 but there is only one race in a very bad timing, it would be nice if there will be more Praga races for european people.
Later than the Cayman and Ginetta, why don't give the Maserati GT4 a try? or maybe a full gt4 championship Porsche+Maserati+Ginetta?
Lotus 3 Eleven is very good too, just discovered!
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Pasha Paterson - 07-12-2018
(07-12-2018, 11:47 AM)Jaroslav Černý Wrote: MX5 cup is not suitable to be driven with almost any other car in AC because it has those insanely grippy slicks. All that car does is go flat out, dive every corner at max speed you can. With a little more power it does sub 7min Nord. Tourist. The tyres have a little crazy grip. Plus as a stock car it's pretty damn boring to drive, low power, infinite grip slicks. It will be a carnage when some cars have way too different cornering speeds and straight line speeds.
That diversity is exactly what made IMSA Street Tuner such an interesting division. Last year it had the BMW M3, MINI Cooper, Mazda MX-5, Nissan Altima, and Porsche Cayman all running together. Each car has wildly different performance characteristics but they worked out the BoP to produce some incredible racing. Yes the MX-5 was flat-out most of the time, but they had to be skillful in carrying that speed to keep up with the other cars. I don't pretend to be even a quarter as smart as the IMSA engineers in setting up BoP, but I'm interested in seeing whether a similar selection of cars in AC could be adjusted to run together, with some good drivers (better than me) behind the wheel. I encourage you to take a look at some of the IMSA Continental Tire Challenge races on YouTube and see what all the fuss is about.
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Pasha Paterson - 07-12-2018
- Porsche 718S 1:41.286 (Zackaphina)
- Abarth 500 AC 1:41.939 (KORXX)
- Mazda MX-5 Cup 1:44.167 (edsonorm)
- BMW 1M 1:44.245 (Rafael Mendes)
- Toyota GT86 1:50.977 (DonutThing)
- Audi S1 1:51.246 (DonutThing)
- Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV 1:54.794 (me)
RE: The Race Series Suggestion Thread - Jaroslav Černý - 07-13-2018
But don't they use the same tyres? In AC you would have to mod all the cars to use equal tyre. Plus all the IMSA cars probably modified for racing in other ways too, you would have to read the regulations for the series and see what they allow or not and then adapt it by modding for all the cars you want to use, they probably have adjustable springs/dampers, better brakes and who knows what else even if they are trying to keep the cars looking stock they are mostly super cars from what I saw, Porsches, McLarens, ...
At least use MX5 ND not ND Cup. And regular Abarth 500 not the race version on slicks. Then all cars should have a semislick tyre option even though those tyres still often differ quite a bit in quality, size, ...
Balancing out 7 cars say for a 6 tracks season... good luck as that will take a crap ton of driving by several consistent and fast enough people to do since there are no existing series driven by such people in AC with these cars to take data from those.