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Make less painful races ! - Lionel Humbert - 06-14-2018

Hello,

I registered on SRS 1 week ago, I made about 5 races, and all have been painful to death playing (on AC) ....

I was searching something about clean and fair races, and all I found here was :

- First corner contacts in all senses, even if u start in the first 3 positions ....

- Blue flags don't letting you pass -  or even worse : crashing u by not braking when u passed or breaking the line when u're passing

- Guys being out of the track who come back just in front of you

Making my car easily destroyed early on races, making my incidents count very high, and seriously affecting my anger after a race ....

I would suggest some ideas to counter that :

- Don't count as an incident if ur car is hitted by behind (and don't counter incidents in the 10 seconds after being hitten in the rear)

- Ban for a week minimum a guy who has a blue flag for more than 25% of the track (with the same person behind), and ban a guy which makes a contact while having the blue flag

- I don't have an idea for first corners, but I think it's something which could be done

Also, when I see something like that, I think about a toxic guy which could be banned (for a week first, a month second, and definitively third time), in this result I have a count of 13 incidents while I drived safely ... :

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Otherwise, about the content and possibilities given by your tool (races often, not so long but not too short), it's really interesting.


RE: Make less painful races ! - Peter Winkler - 06-14-2018

Hi,

SRS has a good reporting tool and our admins take care about
so please help to get clean races - meaning, if you identify dirty drivers, report them
this is the only way

all points you mentioned will cause penalties to the driver causing them

if you are impacted by a dirty driver you have to accept the incidents
only thing you can do - report it - have a short look to this post
http://www.simracingsystem.com/showthread.php?tid=721

I guess it happens to everyone - it is a mess, you feel down, but thats the fact
i had 3 bad weeks (to be clear i do not want to start a inc discussion with this)
- up to 20 inc in one race caused by dive bomber (crashed serval times into the wall and other drivers after his hit)
- 5 crashes in my rear in one race - Always from the same guy

the community will support you - when i had my bad races
i got from some drivers watching SRS stream short private messages
some nice words to motivate me and to tell me that it was a mess
that helps a lot to see and understand that you are not alone

Ciao
Peter


RE: Make less painful races ! - Pawel Kusmierek - 06-14-2018

Hi Lionel,

Most things that you are suggesting will never be implemented, because they cannot be done automatically and SRS runs something like 50 races a day, you would need a big team of judges working full time on judging the races.

You can also report outrageous incidents, there is protest form for that (as said above). These, if reported properly, will be reviewed by a human and addressed as necessary, up to a long term ban.

The "toxic" guy will be penalized because 20+ incidents in one race result in an automatic suspension.

Would you really have to learn is to avoid these problems. Assume that people will misbehave in the first corner, assume that the car sitting on the grass may pull onto the track just in front of you. Slow down slightly, think of exit strategies, stay way from trouble. 

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6DrFHFm0bsORR7MC_Mrumn6GERqFUpng  (it's iRacing, but much applies to SRS as well)


RE: Make less painful races ! - Michael Butler - 06-14-2018

Had 17 inc. race due to multiple hits after contact ...most ever for me. Average is still a (3) after 670+ races...stick with it, you'll learn to get faster just to avoid the incidents.  LOL !!! Cool


RE: Make less painful races ! - Rafael Jimenez - 06-15-2018

Courage Lionel, we all have bad spells, but keep in mind that according to your rating increase, the race partners (in theory) will have more experience and playing time in SRS and therefore more adjusted races.

PD:
In certain situations, use the report process


RE: Make less painful races ! - Maciek Sobczak - 06-28-2018

You are still a newbie with a low rating, that means you race other newbies, and many of them can`t do a clean race if their lives depended on it.
Race clean, rank high and you get with people of rating 400 and above, much less risk racing on those servers. Now even up high things can`t be all clean - like many people divebombing, can`t do nothing about that.
Anyhow, SRS is the cleanest series I raced yet.


RE: Make less painful races ! - Gordon Jacobson - 06-28-2018

(06-28-2018, 09:03 AM)Maciek Sobczak Wrote:  Anyhow, SRS is the cleanest series I raced yet.

+1 and Welcome!


RE: Make less painful races ! - Michal Janak - 06-28-2018

when i started approx 2 years ago, i colected so many unawoidable hits that it lasted 2 years to low crash ratio bellow 2

and still on servers 1 every 2nd race got hit at T1 and lose time by this and maintain crash ratio around 2 instead lowering, and losing points too for overal rating, it is little boring sometimes (T1 bumps)


RE: Make less painful races ! - Paul Batey - 06-30-2018

I'd only been simracing a few weeks before I found SRS, and I'm still not the fastest by a long way. SRS is way way cleaner than a public server, it really got me hooked on simracing. Although I've been pole axed a couple of times, usually it's easy to avoid crashes and keep an eye out for too much aggression. Nothing as satisfying as giving up a place to avoid a muppet, then watch them lose it on the next corner.

After races where I'm sure I've been taken out and am eager to watch the replay to vent against another driver, often it turns out to be 50/50 or at least understandable. Good to learn from other people's mistakes as well as my own.

Racing in the same series, I get a feel for which drivers I trust and which ones I don't.

If you have a consistently high incident count, it's probably you.


RE: Make less painful races ! - Albert Castro - 07-01-2018

(06-30-2018, 06:57 AM)Paul Batey Wrote:  I'd only been simracing a few weeks before I found SRS, and I'm still not the fastest by a long way.  SRS is way way cleaner than a public server, it really got me hooked on simracing.  Although I've been pole axed a couple of times, usually it's easy to avoid crashes and keep an eye out for too much aggression.  Nothing as satisfying as giving up a place to avoid a muppet, then watch them lose it on the next corner.  

After races where I'm sure I've been taken out and am eager to watch the replay to vent against another driver, often it turns out to be 50/50 or at least understandable.  Good to learn from other people's mistakes as well as my own.

Racing in the same series, I get a feel for which drivers I trust and which ones I don't.  

If you have a consistently high incident count, it's probably you.

I agree with this. 

You got rear end 5x times from the guy behind you? Why was he behind you the whole time? It is probably because you are slower and he is trying to pass you. If you are faster than him, he should not be in your mirrors rear ending you. After 2 laps, you should be able to put a gap on on him.

I have 50 race starts and average less than 1.4 incidents per race.

Since I have experience driving my own car in real life on a track, I treat SRS races similarly. In real life, I cannot afford to crash my car or have an on track incident. The number one goal is car and self preservation.

My goal is not to win the race, but to finish the race cleanly without incidents. This means being aware of the drivers around me. If someone is too aggressive, I let them pass and see if i can keep up and force them to make an error by putting the pressure on from behind. Many times I find drivers that are only fast for a few laps but are not consistent. I can usually pressure them into crashing or spinning off track. However, if they pull away from after I let them pass, it means they are faster and should be in front of me, not behind me rear ending me 5x through a race trying to pass me.